`Ali about `Uthman: There is nothing between us except goodness

June 17, 2013 by islamistruth



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Text of Hadith:

[Juray ibn Kulayb said: I saw that `Ali was ordering something and `Uthman was prohibiting from it. So I said to `Ali : “There is something wrong between you both.” He replied : “There is nothing between us apart from good, but the better one of us is the one who is more obedient to this religion.”

In another narration the matter being prohibited is the Mut`ah, meaning of Hajj.]

Chain #1: al-Matalib al-`Aliyah fi Zawa’id al-Masaneed al-Thamaniyah by Ibn Hajar:
وَقَالَ مُسَدَّدٌ : ثنا يَحْيَى ، عَنْ شُعْبَةَ ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ ، عَنْ جُرَيِّ بْنِ كُلَيْبٍ ، قَالَ : رَأَيْتُ عَلِيًّا رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ يَأْمُرُ بِشَيْءٍ وَعُثْمَانَ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ يَنْهَى عَنْهُ ، فَقُلْتُ لِعَلِيٍّ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ : إِنَّ بَيْنَكُمَا لَشَرًّا . قَالَ : ” مَا بَيْنَنَا إِلَّا خَيْرٌ ، وَلَكِنْ خَيْرُنَا أَتْبَعُنَا لِهَذَا الدِّينِ ” .

Chain #2: al-Nasikh wal-Mansoukh by al-Qassim ibn Salam:
حَدَّثَنَا حَجَّاجٌ ، عَنْ شُعْبَةَ ، عَنْ قَتَادَةَ قَالَ : سَمِعْتُ جُرَيَّ بْنَ كُلَيْبٍ يَقُولُ : رَأَيْتُ عُثْمَانَ يَنْهَى عَنِ الْمُتْعَةِ وَعَلِيٌّ ، يَأْمُرُ بِهَا قَالَ : فَأَتَيْتُ عَلِيًّا ، فَقُلْتُ : إِنَّ بَيْنَكُمَا لَشَرًّا أَنْتَ تَأْمُرُ بِهَا وَعُثْمَانُ يَنْهَى عَنْهَا ، فَقَالَ : ” مَا بَيْنَنَا إِلا خَيِّرٌ ، وَلَكِنْ خَيْرُنَا أَتْبَعُنَا لِهَذَا الدِّينِ ” .


The companions would openly differ in some rulings, especially when it comes to following some Sunan, but the difference does not create hatred and enmity as the Shia would like to portray. In fact, this narration goes even deeper to disprove Imamah itself, since `Uthman (ra) is claimed to be an evil usurper and oppressor by the Shia while `Ali (ra) says “There is nothing between us except goodness.” Meaning he absolutely and completely rejected the Shia claim.

For original article and grading of narrations click here.

By Hani
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    How can there be any thing other than good by a person with any one however evil, bad or good he may be , Abu Bakr a person known for his falsehood (forget he got himself called siddique) who usurped his God given Khilafat, and he (Maula Ali ) didn’t even raised a dagger to snatch back his Allah given rights.(forget the huge properties of his wife , he urped , confiscated and snatched) . Fateh Khaiber o Khandaq, Badr o Ohad was he so much weakened that he said OK you takeover the hukoomat of a few days , I am happy whatever Allah has given me . Then when another illegitimate tookover the mantle again clandestinely , he did not raise even a voice , even helped him in the matter of deeny advises when the fellow defaulted , so much so that the man had to say ‘Ya Abul Hasan , if you were not there , Omar was a dead man and most admirably or I may say foolishly say there was nothing ,except good between them ,between a Nathal and a wajibul Qatl and the immidiate successor of the Apostle of Allah . And do you think I used these demeaning words for your reverend Khaleefah just to tease you , no I am not that mean , I only repeated the words of your Mother of beleiver after for some times she watched the functioning of the Khaleefa e soum , his astray ways , his extrawaganzah , his kunba parwari and misuses of the baitul maal . His behaviours with the elder most and very respectable elder Sahabi Hazrat Abu Zar Ghaffari at his very senior age and no one to look after him except a very young daughter , and his zulm banishing him to a distant desert . To shame him only Allah sent a kind helpful group of men who reached the deserted place when all of a sudden Janab Ghaffari died. His only jurm was he had criticised Usman (so called Ghani on Govt wealth) as a very elderly senior pointed to his extrawagent ways and misuse of public money .